🎧#26 Beyond open APIs. Ontologies & Faster time to value creation - Joel Bender, Erik Wallin and Terry Herr

What are ontologies, and what are they good for? What does semantic interoperability mean and what is the business purpose of standardization?

  
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“We've got a lot of buildings that could get connected and run better, faster, more efficiently. What prevents that, is how much effort it takes to get that connectivity done” - Terry Herr

Is the real estate industry behind Industrial ways of working? Or actually, better positioned for the future thanks to a solid foundation in BACnet (where applicable)?

What is Brick schema, Haystack Tagging, Real Estate Core, Google Buildings Ontology, Volttron, Microsoft Data Language, taxonomies, and ontologies in general? And how can we tell them apart and/or use them together?

Who are the unsung heroes of our time? Who’s making the world work behind the scenes? Who are the true pure breeds when it comes to Building Automation Bravado? And why is it important with standardization?

This episode is a true island of reality in an ocean of semantic interoperability and building automation.


“…You really try need to have a very good purpose, you could say a business purpose, of why these standardizations take place…?
- Erik Oskar Wallin

This is an episode that connects the business value with the technical ways of working, which makes it super interesting to listen to. You will get to listen to how the building automation industry works, and the early days of how the world’s largest building automation protocol came about. And on that subject, Beyond Buildings want to extend a big Thank You to ASHRAE, BACnet International and BTL for creating an interoperable future for everyone. And of course, everyone else that works hard to make this world a more open place for everyone.


There’s a reason property owners are able to turn their data into gold, and it’s thanks to people like these that technology and information systems keep on improving!

  • Joel Bender, Programmer/Analyst at Cornell University, Building Automation Rock-star and BACnet Guru.

  • Erik Oskar Wallin, Founder and Chairman of the RealEstateCore Consortium and Chief Executive Officer at Idun Real Estate Solutions, Ontology specialist with a passion for self-learning systems and connected real estate.

  • Terry Herr, President at Intellimation LLC, Buildings Systems Integration and BAS Analytics specialist, and a deep interest in open interoperable systems.

You will hear interesting stories from the real world of Smart Buildings and get a deeper understanding of semantic interoperability, and what is needed to onboard buildings faster.

  • It is RDF, it’s OWL, it’s Sparql and Shacle, and it’s the nitty-gritty when it comes to making sense of data in the building automation realm.

  • You might have heard about Real Estate Core, Google Buildings Ontology, Haystack Tagging, Brick Schema, but do you know what they do? And how to use them together?

In this amazing podcast episode, we get a behind-the-scenes look into the inner workings of the building automation industry. We are truly indebted to the work of giants of the past, present that allows us all to scale into the future.

This episode is definitely one that you can’t miss and it will accelerate and/or validate your knowledge on where the future is heading for everyone!

These are some of the questions that are being answered in the episode!

  • What’s the business purpose of standardization?

  • Could buildings be in better shape than industrial settings for the future?

  • Is energy optimization a hygiene factor these days and should be seen as an area that has been solved?

  • What’s the big thing for buildings during COVID?

  • What’s the hidden potential in BMS/and BAS, and how could companies take advantage of it?

  • Do we have enough of the ontologies to get started, or do we have to wait?

“And that is the thing that is going to provide semantic interoperability. Because the model itself is like physics, right? That's not going to change.

The language that people use to describe those components is going to change because we're not all English…” - Joel Bender

  • How many tagging standards are there, and which ones are the right ones?

  • How far does tagging get you versus ontologies?

  • How important is it with industry protocols and industry-wide interoperability?

  • How do these ontologies and taxonomies get used in real life?

  • What are controlled vocabularies, and why might they be important?

  • What are EIS, FDD, ASO and why does it matter?

  • How can property owners turn data into gold? And how can we mine that gold faster?

  • How important is it to get alignment with the API, the context as well as the underlying data that feeds the API?

  • RDF – triple-core technologies, are they sufficient or already obsolete?

This and more will be asked and answered in this episode of the Beyond Buildings podcast. Truly an amazing episode that you can’t afford to miss!

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It’s not that easy, even for professionals to understand the realm of ontologies and semantic interoperability. How can we make this easier to understand? If ontologies and taxonomies help reduce the time needed to create value from buildings, how can we improve the understanding and democratize smart building creation for everyone?

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Joel, Erik, and Terry will also be available to answer questions in an upcoming AMA (Ask Me Anything) for the Beyond Buildings Podcast paying subscribers. The session will be moderated by Nicolas Waern who is working with Digital Twin enablement in other industries. Digital Twins, AI, 5G, and other tools are slowly making their way into every industry. Knowing what is happening in Construction, Industrial IoT, Manufacturing, Healthcare, Automotive, and other industries helps in predicting where the world is going in a week, a month, a year from now.

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And finally, a big thank you to Joel, Terry, and Erik, and to the Beyond Buildings podcast Sponsor IDUN Real Estate. Idun ProptechOS the Operating System for property owners, used and supported by Microsoft Azure and some of the World’s largest property developers.  

Links:

  • Terry Herr, President at Intellimation LLC, Buildings Systems Integration and BAS Analytics specialist, and a deep interest in open interoperable systems.

  • Joel Bender, Programmer/Analyst at Cornell University, Building Automation Rock-star and BACnet Guru.

  • Erik Oskar Wallin, Founder and Chairman of the RealEstateCore Consortium and Chief Executive Officer at Idun Real Estate Solutions, Ontology specialist with a passion for self-learning systems and connected real estate.

  • Nicolas Waern, Podcast Creator, Strategy & Innovation Expert at WINNIIO